Everyone in the job market at some point or another is going to discuss an offer.
An offer is described in the context of a prospective hire.
The discussion around it is trying to pinpoint the right answer to the question:
"for how much am I willing to join your company"
I think a more interesting question is instead a question that people don't ask (and would probably feel even more uncomfortable to answer)
"for how much am I willing to leave my current company"
This "pivoting" of the question has the following interesting characteristics
- It is only valid for people that currently do have a job.
Thats ok - most prospective employers would rather not deal with people that never had a job or people that are laid off. They would be interested in talking to people that quit their jobs but people quite their jobs typically after having found what job to do next
- It is also valid for people that are working on something - even though they don't have a job
For any wannabe enterpreuneir / not really getting paid startup coder, founder , cofounder or cofounding employee all these people that may be working but they don't really have a job this question still makes sense : it means for how much I am will move from my self-employed state to become (again) a hired employee.
- It is agnostic about the new job : an offer to a person encapsulates two elements - the cost/benefit/opportunity loss of someone leaving a prior company together with that obtained by joining a new one.. Contrary this questions only capture one side of the equation and that makes a more useful/primitive knowledge piece.
- It is an always valid to ask question: I can always ask and answer this question I don't have to be in job hunting mood. The answer to this question is the barometer of how much I like/I value/I benefit to staying to my company.
- It is not a secret: the offers, how much you are being paid etc are all secrets protected with legal clauses in the employement contracts of employees. However, answering this question doesn't seem to betray any confidential information - even though in reality it does expose the true total $-ized benefit of the employee by their employer
- People wouldn't dare to say it. In spite if the confidentiality clauses - people do talk about their salaries/offers etc.. Do they really open up to answer this question - hardly ever... It requires a significant sense of personal honesty to answer this accurately (and braveness to answer it openly)
It would really be cool if we could get people to think and answer this question....
An offer is described in the context of a prospective hire.
The discussion around it is trying to pinpoint the right answer to the question:
"for how much am I willing to join your company"
I think a more interesting question is instead a question that people don't ask (and would probably feel even more uncomfortable to answer)
"for how much am I willing to leave my current company"
This "pivoting" of the question has the following interesting characteristics
- It is only valid for people that currently do have a job.
Thats ok - most prospective employers would rather not deal with people that never had a job or people that are laid off. They would be interested in talking to people that quit their jobs but people quite their jobs typically after having found what job to do next
- It is also valid for people that are working on something - even though they don't have a job
For any wannabe enterpreuneir / not really getting paid startup coder, founder , cofounder or cofounding employee all these people that may be working but they don't really have a job this question still makes sense : it means for how much I am will move from my self-employed state to become (again) a hired employee.
- It is agnostic about the new job : an offer to a person encapsulates two elements - the cost/benefit/opportunity loss of someone leaving a prior company together with that obtained by joining a new one.. Contrary this questions only capture one side of the equation and that makes a more useful/primitive knowledge piece.
- It is an always valid to ask question: I can always ask and answer this question I don't have to be in job hunting mood. The answer to this question is the barometer of how much I like/I value/I benefit to staying to my company.
- It is not a secret: the offers, how much you are being paid etc are all secrets protected with legal clauses in the employement contracts of employees. However, answering this question doesn't seem to betray any confidential information - even though in reality it does expose the true total $-ized benefit of the employee by their employer
- People wouldn't dare to say it. In spite if the confidentiality clauses - people do talk about their salaries/offers etc.. Do they really open up to answer this question - hardly ever... It requires a significant sense of personal honesty to answer this accurately (and braveness to answer it openly)
It would really be cool if we could get people to think and answer this question....
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